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		<title>By: Michael Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Java: Write Once, Run Anywhere.
PHP: Write Once, Read Never

PHP is a horrible mess.  Stay away from it like the plague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Java: Write Once, Run Anywhere.<br />
PHP: Write Once, Read Never</p>
<p>PHP is a horrible mess.  Stay away from it like the plague.</p>
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		<title>By: MIS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Java is a great language. If you never hope to deliver anything. This &quot;scalability&quot; stuff is to laugh at. Keep toting SUN&#039;s tired old line if you want to. PHP rules the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Java is a great language. If you never hope to deliver anything. This &#8220;scalability&#8221; stuff is to laugh at. Keep toting SUN&#8217;s tired old line if you want to. PHP rules the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 05:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PHP lags specification&#039;s compared to Java.

Java has JSR(Java Specification Request).
example.. JDBC is having a implementation from lots of vendors like.. MySQL , oracle, PostgreSQL etc...

There should be similar standardization in php.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PHP lags specification&#8217;s compared to Java.</p>
<p>Java has JSR(Java Specification Request).<br />
example.. JDBC is having a implementation from lots of vendors like.. MySQL , oracle, PostgreSQL etc&#8230;</p>
<p>There should be similar standardization in php.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading it seems that the problems is more about structure than a technical problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading it seems that the problems is more about structure than a technical problem.</p>
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		<title>By: RA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually that’s an interesting point, HK… Facebook does use PHP but several of their developers are on record as saying that their PHP code base is a quagmire, or at least in past it was.. The most important thing about Facebook, though, is that only the front-end is done in PHP. Their messaging system is written in Java and their back-end is in C++.. which proves what Michael and RR were saying about proper OO languages being more appropriate for the heavy lifting, i.e. the business logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually that’s an interesting point, HK… Facebook does use PHP but several of their developers are on record as saying that their PHP code base is a quagmire, or at least in past it was.. The most important thing about Facebook, though, is that only the front-end is done in PHP. Their messaging system is written in Java and their back-end is in C++.. which proves what Michael and RR were saying about proper OO languages being more appropriate for the heavy lifting, i.e. the business logic.</p>
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		<title>By: HK</title>
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		<dc:creator>HK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I know, facebook is running on PHP. My point is , if PHP is only for mid/small type web apps then, how facebook is running using PHP. Perhaps, large scale web apps should be more bigger than facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I know, facebook is running on PHP. My point is , if PHP is only for mid/small type web apps then, how facebook is running using PHP. Perhaps, large scale web apps should be more bigger than facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 06:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use both languages for different reasons. I do my best to stay away from the Object Oriented features of PHP because they mainly make my life harder when dealing with OO in a scripting language. Imagine trying to see if your code works by having to run the entire app to only find out you incorrectly referenced another objects nonexistent method. With Java, I at least get a compile time check. When I&#039;m dealing with fairly complex business logic, complex business apps, I would go with Java because dealing with OO in Java is easier. If I&#039;m doing a simple small to mid-size app (I use size relative to number of features to be built as opposed to number of users) - i would use PHP. It&#039;s easier to stand up and start running web pages. I don&#039;t have to deal with the challenges of a J2EE application, mainly because those features are not needed for a simple web app. If I do have a large web app (# of features) or a the complicated business process I would go with Java. It&#039;s just easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use both languages for different reasons. I do my best to stay away from the Object Oriented features of PHP because they mainly make my life harder when dealing with OO in a scripting language. Imagine trying to see if your code works by having to run the entire app to only find out you incorrectly referenced another objects nonexistent method. With Java, I at least get a compile time check. When I&#8217;m dealing with fairly complex business logic, complex business apps, I would go with Java because dealing with OO in Java is easier. If I&#8217;m doing a simple small to mid-size app (I use size relative to number of features to be built as opposed to number of users) &#8211; i would use PHP. It&#8217;s easier to stand up and start running web pages. I don&#8217;t have to deal with the challenges of a J2EE application, mainly because those features are not needed for a simple web app. If I do have a large web app (# of features) or a the complicated business process I would go with Java. It&#8217;s just easier.</p>
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		<title>By: For all you Java lovers an PHP haters &#124; KennethVR</title>
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		<dc:creator>For all you Java lovers an PHP haters &#124; KennethVR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this blog post does a good job telling us why Java is better&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this blog post does a good job telling us why Java is better&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ganesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>ganesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi spunken, i agree with you, if you dont mind can you mail me your company website at ganesh[dot]guwahati[at]gmail.com. I had to write email id like this as i think richardrauser.com dont like or publish email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi spunken, i agree with you, if you dont mind can you mail me your company website at ganesh[dot]guwahati[at]gmail.com. I had to write email id like this as i think richardrauser.com dont like or publish email.</p>
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		<title>By: spunken</title>
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		<dc:creator>spunken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Karthik! I can see that your website is great *sigh*. And what kind of &quot;XML languages&quot; do you use then? The XML language language?
And how yould you use PHP on an iPhone? I guess you mean the website&#039;s output for mobile devices. Well... Whatever...

I also agree with richard: Java is a cool language. The coolest feature is the . operator. I do not like -&gt; ! And the object-orientation-stacked-on-top-of-a-procedural-architecture is in my opinion the biggest problem for PHP. Rewrite it... and then remarket it, thats my advise for ZEND.

Well... here at my company I am forced to use PHP for everything. But I don&#039;t. I started to mix bash with python for systems engineering purposes. And then I was told that Python was gay and PHP was much better. I was like: ... the fukk?! Now imagine my supervisor&#039;s reaction when he found out that I wrote services in Java to keep our servers interconnected in case of a system failure. He was not amused! But on the other hand: he cant code!

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Karthik! I can see that your website is great *sigh*. And what kind of &#8220;XML languages&#8221; do you use then? The XML language language?<br />
And how yould you use PHP on an iPhone? I guess you mean the website&#8217;s output for mobile devices. Well&#8230; Whatever&#8230;</p>
<p>I also agree with richard: Java is a cool language. The coolest feature is the . operator. I do not like -&gt; ! And the object-orientation-stacked-on-top-of-a-procedural-architecture is in my opinion the biggest problem for PHP. Rewrite it&#8230; and then remarket it, thats my advise for ZEND.</p>
<p>Well&#8230; here at my company I am forced to use PHP for everything. But I don&#8217;t. I started to mix bash with python for systems engineering purposes. And then I was told that Python was gay and PHP was much better. I was like: &#8230; the fukk?! Now imagine my supervisor&#8217;s reaction when he found out that I wrote services in Java to keep our servers interconnected in case of a system failure. He was not amused! But on the other hand: he cant code!</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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